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Guitar Amp Conversions of Old PA Amplifiers

Guitar amp conversions of old PA amplifiers are very fun projects to take on.  There’s so many different amplifiers, that each one is unique.  It would be easy to force any design into a PA chassis, but the best conversions let the chassis dictate the design.  For example, when I first received this PA amplifier for conversion, I figured it would be a quick job.  While the conversion itself only took about 10 hours, the planning that went into this took quite a bit longer.

Initially, I saw 4 controls, 2x 6L6s and 2.5x 12AX7s (a 6AV6 is ½ of a 12AX7) and thought I’d make a modified Fender® 5E3 (1955-1960 Deluxe®) with 35 watt output.  Incidentally, this is would be very close to a Fender® 5E5 (1955-1960 Pro®).  But that leaves an extra unused gain stage on the table.  So I started planning on a gain boost for the Deluxe® bright channel.  The extra control would be a gain control, and the toggle switch would bypass the extra gain stage.  But this amplifier had different plans.

Two of the controls had a switch on them.  One was used as a power switch before, so that’s a no-brainer.  However, what should the other switch be used for?  Additionally, one of the controls was a center-tapped pot.  It was originally used to control the volume of two different record players.  Rotate counterclockwise from center to turn up player 1, or rotate clockwise from center to turn up player 2.  Going back to center turned off both.  If I tried to use this for the Deluxe® circuit, the magic interaction between channels would be lost!  So it was back to the drawing board. 

I noticed the amplifier had an additional 8 pin tube socket.  It was used to power the motors on the record players, rather than for an additional tube.  But I thought, this would be a great spot to add another tube.  How about a 6SL7?  This gave me a total of 7 gain stages to play with!  Now we’re talking! I ended up with a design that used all 4 knobs and all 3 switches, to make a 2.5 channel amplifier!

The leftmost knob is the bass knob.  The next one over is the gain knob.  At minimum, the pre-amp is very clean.  Turn it all the way over to max for 35 dB of pre-amp boost!  When turned down passed minimum, the EQ is bypassed for a very raw straightforward tone.  It’s just you and your guitar.  It’s as close as plugging straight into the speaker as you can get!  With the EQ bypassed, you can get some great power tube overdrive by cranking the volume towards Low Gain.  The switch in the middle is the bright switch, enabled when pushed to the right.  This switch works with the volume control to provide a boost to the treble at lower volumes.  It works even with the EQ bypassed.  The volume knob is unlike any other amplifier you may have used.  When pointed straight up, the amplifier is muted.  Rotate it towards Low Gain, and you increase the volume of the low gain channel.  Rotate it towards High Gain and you increase the volume of the high gain channel.  This works no matter what the gain control is set to.  Putting the gain on EQ Bypass and rotating the volume towards High Gain gives you a raw pre-amp sound with a mild overdrive.  The bright switch is tied to the low gain side of this knob.  When on the low gain side of the knob, it works like any other bright switch you may have used in the past.  However, when you are on the high gain side of the knob, it adds in treble from the low gain channel!  The result is a dynamic and clean high end, with a sustaining distorted low end.  It’s a very sweet tone, and unlike anything you may have heard before!  The rightmost knob is the treble control.  When turned down passed minimum, the amplifier turns off.

The ¼” inputs are on the back side, with two inputs set up like the typical Fender® inputs.  #1 is the primary input with #2 being a little softer and darker.  There are also three RCA inputs with similar characteristics to the #2 ¼” input.  There are two ¼” speaker outputs and a “Tape Output” that is set up as a line-out.  The impedance selector is unique to this PA amplifier, in that it has a wire that must be put into the correct impedance slot.  This amplifier can run 4, 8, 16, 156, 250 and 500 ohm speakers!  The 156 ohm is also usable as a 70V output, in case you want to run your cab several thousand feet away.

The tubes used are two 12AX7s, one 6SL7, one 6AV6, two 6L6s and one 5U4.  Power output is 32 watts.  The power amp can be driven to overdrive with as little as 45mV (-30dBV) at maximum volume.  This is well within the range of a single coil pickup.  This compares to 120mV (-21dBV) for a Deluxe®.  With the gain control maxed, the low gain channel overdrives at 45mV (-30dBV) for a mild overdrive.  The high gain channel is overdriven at 0.8mV (-65dBV).  This compares to 0.34mV (-72dBV) of a Soldano® SLO®.  While it has very high gain capabilities, this amplifier is designed around low gain playing.  The tube rectifier provides a sweet sustain to your playing.

More pictures and a sound clip are available at https://www.instagram.com/jdpamps/.

For the recording, I used a Les Paul copy straight into the amplifier. The speaker was a single 12″ Jensen Electric Lightning. Recording mic was my phone, an LG V30. Unfortunately, the phone added a bit of compression, so the volume difference between clean and cranked cannot be appreciated in this video.


And The Total Is…

Pictured here is my oscilloscope displaying a 1khz waveform from my 50 watt amplifier. The waveform is noticeably clipped at the top, but just slightly. This was from my output power measurement test. If you’re only interested in the total, scroll to the end of the post. Otherwise, follow along with me.

My amplifier was set up with a 1khz sine wave into the input. The gain knob was increased until clipping, and backed off a bit. The volume knob was then increased until the output was just clipping. The output was driving a 16 ohm dummy load. I measured the voltage that my amplifier was driving across this load.

On screen, you can see the waveform measures 5 divisions high. If you look closely at the 1st input selector switch, it is set to 2 volts per division. The probe is a 10X probe, meaning that the voltage is actually 10X larger than shown on screen. That means this waveform measures 5*2*10 volts or 100 volts peak to peak.

To convert a value from volts peak to peak into volts rms, you must multiply by the square root of 2 (1.41) and divide by 4. This gives you a value of 35.35 volts rms.

At this point, I wanted to do a reality check against my oscilloscope, so I set the frequency of my test signal to 60hz and measured the volts rms with a handheld meter. Why 60hz? The handheld meter is designed for measuring household AC voltages at 60hz.

It measures a bit higher than my calculations. This is expected as the meter assumes a perfect sine wave free of any clipping. Nevertheless, it proves my calculations are in the same ballpark.

To convert volts rms into watts rms, you must square the voltage and divide by the load. This gives…

Before I reveal the answer, I want to address the doubts. Some will ask, “Why have the oscilloscope picture measure 1khz, and not 60hz?”. Because this is a fully analog oscilloscope, there was far too much flicker at 60hz to get a good picture. Plus, 1khz is a good high mid frequency where as 60hz is a bass guitar frequency.

“The signal is visibly clipped here. How can you call this ‘clean watts’?” I am measuring the lower peak to the upper peak. Lowering the volume slightly will eliminate the clipping, but wouldn’t change the measurement on the oscilloscope. It serves as a indication that we really are at the limit. It will change the handheld measurement a bit, but it will come to match the oscilloscope measurement when not clipped.

“What percentage T.H.D. are you measuring at?” I don’t know, but I also don’t care. This is a guitar amplifier, not hi-fi. Below this volume, there is no clipping. At and above this point, there is clipping. This is a very good indicator that the sound characteristics change at this power output. Hence, clean power! To go a little further, the fat lower portion of the waveform and the thin upper portion suggests significant 2nd order distortion while clean, imparting a fullness and sweetness to the tone. The clipping on the top peaks (before bottom peaks) indicate asymmetrical clipping (or even order distortion). Both of which are quite musical!

And now the moment you have all been waiting for…I measured an astounding…

78.125 clean watts!!!

All from a pair of 6L6s.


They Are Here!

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This is a Black Labrador in standard covering. The new logo will be unveiled for the first time at the Chicagoland Vintage Guitar Show.

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This is a Red Pitbull in the Artist Series covering. The Artist Series is an idea I had to feature an artist’s work on both the front panel and in the owners manual. Unfortunately, the artist I had picked for this amplifier was not able to get his art to me in time for the show, so I left the front panel white.

Come back often for some upcoming website updates that will include my new logo, and more pictures of these two.

JDP